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Lily Rabe on Why Gaslighting Is the “Truly Terrifying” Part of ‘American Horror Story’

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The 10th season of American Horror Story has a special meaning for Lily Rabe. The New York-born actress has been part of the hit FX anthology from the beginning, appearing in all but one installment. This new chapter, subtitled Double Tide, gives her the chance to play two characters in one season. Episode 5 of “Part I: Red Tide,” in which she plays a mother in crisis and shows the terrifying original meaning of the recent buzzword “gaslight,” is one of her favorite AHS episodes of all time.

When asked how it feels to reach a decade of AHS, Rabe acknowledges the milestone moment for television’s biggest horror series. “For those of us who were there from season 1, it feels poignant in a way, for sure. I really loved making this season, and so many of the themes that were explored.”

The past calendar year has also seen a streak of roles in critically acclaimed limited series, with Rabe working with hit producer David E. Kelley (The Undoing) and acclaimed director Barry Jenkins (The Underground Railroad). She’s next set to appear in the highly-anticipated political miniseries First Ladies, and the HBO Max thriller Love and Death, based on a real-life murder.

Her favorite part of acting in miniseries? “To get to walk into and through and alongside these completely different worlds. I’m really enjoying it, and I feel so lucky to be working with the creators and directors who are telling the stories,” she says.

Rabe talks to ELLE.com about the terror behind gaslighting, choosing her roles, and going back to basics in AHS: Double Feature.

In a previous interview, you said that episode 5 is one of your favorite episodes of your past nine seasons of American Horror Story. Could you expand on why?

Absolutely. I know it’s a funny thing to say something was your favorite when so many horrible things happen to so many people in the course of one episode, but that’s just how we’re able to talk about the show in this world. I think what the episode explores psychologically is one of the most compelling and terrifying ideas, and the episode explored it in such a harrowing, nuanced way. It’s down to the title of the episode [“Gaslight”].

In the world of [AHS], there are a lot of things that are quite heightened, such as vampiric creatures, potential aliens, et cetera, running around. However, this idea of being gaslit, of people you love [and] trust making you doubt your own sense of reality and leading you into a place of questioning your own sanity, turning the world upside down, telling you the sky is not blue, when you’re looking at a blue sky. Of all the hard topics, that’s a truly terrifying one, because it truly could happen to anyone. This idea of having your own sense of what is real manipulated, it’s so, so scary.

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The scenes with Ursula (Leslie Grossman) and Alma (Ryan Kiera Armstrong) impacted me the most. They reminded me very much of the classic film Gaslight. People always say that’s the best example of the term, and this is also a very good example.

I agree. The episode was beautifully directed. I think John Gray just was at the absolute top of his game with this episode. The way that there’s a parallel story happening and [how] that was all interwoven was done so deftly and the true horror of [gaslighting] is unbearable. And when one of those people is your own child.

Yeah. Alma is frightening. When she convinces your character Doris to take the pill, which would either optimize your creativity or turn you into a Pale Person [AHS’s mindless vampires], what was going through your mind while acting that scene?

The lead-up to both my character and Sarah [Paulson]’s character taking the pills was done so well, and it’s so earned when they finally do take the pill. The circumstances are very different, but they’re so desperate and so relatable. These two women were the last people who were going to do it for different reasons, but they are truly driven to it.

At that point [Doris] has said no, and there’s the [scene] where she throws a pill and the glass of water across the room and goes out barefoot into the streets with her baby. She is quite literally trying to do anything she can to escape. What’s so devastating about that moment is she’s just handed the pill, and psychologically there is a moment of actual hope for Doris. She has been driven into a corner, she has given up every shred of hope. And in that moment, looking into her daughter’s eyes, no matter what Alma has done, no matter what she saw or didn’t see in the bathroom last night, she’s still her child, she’s still her heart.

I think there is hope that she can be with them, and also this little flicker of possibility. We all know after watching the first four episodes, she has tremendous insecurity about her own talent and [if she has a] purpose beyond her family. In that moment, the manipulation that happens is so relatable because this person that she loves more than anything in the world, who is such a great talent, is looking at her and saying, I believe in you. For just a flicker of a second, she thinks there is the possibility of something better. Maybe I do have a way out, I can get to the other side of something and be with my family again. We’re so willful. If there is even a crack of light, the sliver of hope, that is what you go towards. In that moment, it’s such a flash, but it is hope.

This 10th season seems like a full circle moment for you in terms of your characters—you’re going back to playing another very devoted mother to, let’s say, a troubled child [like Nora Montgomery in Season 1]. Did it feel like you went back to basics this season?

The term “back to basics” does ring true. I do think there was something that a number of us who had had done the show for many years felt. I hadn’t used that term, but I’ll take it from you—“back to basics,” in that there is real intimacy particularly in this first half of the season with a family dealing with tremendous crisis. And [it’s] certainly going full circle to being driven by a mother’s love, a very different mother to a very different child. I do feel connected to Season 1. There’s nothing similar between those two characters or the children, but I know what you’re saying in terms of that intimacy. That heart of the season is really palpable as a driving force, this family going into this incredibly complicated situation and trying to hold onto one another.

I also wanted to mention your work outside of AHS. Your roles this year have just been so great, with The Undoing, Underground Railroad, and you have another one coming up, First Ladies. Have you started preparing for that?

I just wrapped that, actually. I’m about to start shooting something for HBO Max, another limited series called Love and Death. All four of those jobs, the two that you mentioned, and then the two that I’m sort of between right now, are all limited series. You can get very spoiled having such a wonderful leader [like Ryan Murphy]. So I’m so grateful that I’ve been able to work with these other incredibly brilliant leaders like Barry Jenkins [and] Susanne Bier. I’m so excited to go back and work with David E. Kelley and Lesli Linka Glatter, who I wanted to work with for such a long time.

I think the limited series structure is a real gift to an actor, because it’s this wonderful hybrid between getting to make a movie and a television show. Ryan broke the mold with [AHS], because even though it’s an ongoing series, it also has this feeling of a limited series because you get to have a beginning, middle, and end each season and with each character that you play. I really relish the opportunity to tell these stories with these visionaries, whether it’s seven episodes, eight or 10 or 12. The world-building around a limited series is something that I find so exciting as an actor walking into that world.

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Rabe (far right) on the set of The Undoing with Susanne Bier (center) and Edgar Ramirez (center right).

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Even after AHS where you push yourself to horror extremes, it’s interesting to see the roles you’ve chosen. What would you say is your driving force for choosing roles after going as big and excessive as AHS?

I think it’s changed over time. I used to feel like if I loved a role, if I loved a script, I would want to do it in a vacuum. Now, the first thing is, who is making this? Whose brain created this world? Whose ship am I getting on? Listen, I love to relax, take a vacation, lay on the beach, read a book, and have a day of doing nothing. That’s an actual dream to me, but that’s not something I tend to look for in my work.

In the world of horror period, and the world of AHS, the roof is blown off in terms of what the limits are. That’s not a requirement, but I, but for me as an actor, I want to feel like there is going to be a great sense of freedom because the ground is solid beneath you. So there is room for you to do your work, and to not only surprise yourself, but continue to be surprised by everyone you’re working with. That is the journey that’s so exciting to me. If I know going in, “Oh, this is very clear to me exactly what this experience is going to be, I know exactly what to expect,” that’s probably something that’s less and less interesting to me.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

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Jennifer Lopez Joined Ben Affleck In L.A. With Kids For Thanksgiving

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On Wednesday night, Jennifer Lopez arrived in Los Angeles with her 13-year-old twins Max and Emme. The family was likely there to join Lopez’s boyfriend, Ben Affleck, for the Thanksgiving holiday. Lopez recently returned from the much colder climate of British Columbia, Canada, where she was filming her latest project, The Mother.

J. Lo touched down in her private jet wearing a teddy fur coat from Coach’s Autumn/Winter 2019 collection, and a pair of Ugg boots. Classic airplane outfit, celebrity style. Lopez and Affleck originally dated in 2002 and broke up in 2004. Their romance was rekindled earlier this year, soon after Lopez ended her relationship with baseball player Alex Rodriguez. The new couple went official in July, while celebrating Lopez’s 52nd birthday abroad.

Affleck’s most recent relationship with Ana de Armas ended in January after about a year together. He had divorced ex-wife Jennifer Garner in 2015 after being married for almost a decade. Garner and Affleck had three daughters, Violet, Seraphina, and Sam.

Before traveling back to the U.S., Lopez posted a story to Instagram Reels about how grateful she was to be headed home.

“Hey everybody, it’s my last day here shooting on The Mother out in Smithers in the snow, it’s been beautiful, but tonight I’m on my way home,” she said, as she walked through the wild landscape in a black coat and beanie.

“I’m so excited for Thanksgiving! I hope everybody has an amazing weekend with their families and their loved ones, there’s so much to be grateful for this year. I’m on my way!”

This is the first major holiday of the year since Lopez and Affleck reunited, so it’s likely to be a big one for both families.

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Everlane’s Black Friday Sale is Packed With Winter Essentials

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This is not a drill: Everlane just kicked off its Black Friday sale. Now through Monday, November 29, the direct-to-consumer brand is offering 20 to 40% off its cozy sweaters, minimalist activewear, and popular jeans. If you’re not super familiar with Everlane, let me spell it out for you: this is a big deal.

The e-tailer might be known for making sustainable, ethically made clothes and accessories at a fair, affordable price, but Everlane rarely has sales beyond its Choose What You Pay section. So, if you want to stock up on cute basics for less, now’s your time to shop.

And, in true Everlane fashion, the brand is taking this opportunity to give back. Everlane is partnering with Rodale Institute and help U.S. farmers transition their farmland to regenerative organic—and donating $15 per order to the cause. A great sale that gives back? I’m sold.

But, hurry! These deals are going to sell out fast, so you won’t want to waste any time filling your e-cart.

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The Cloud Turtleneck

$150 $105 (30% off)

Sweater weather is officially here, so why not pick up a few fresh layers? This turtleneck is the S’s: snuggly, stylish, and on sale. 

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The Authentic Stretch High-Rise Skinny Jeans

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$78 $58 (25% off)

Looking for a great pair of jeans, minus the markup? Everlane’s classic skinny style is not only super stretchy, but it’ll look good with everything from chunky sweaters to silky blouses.

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The ReNew Teddy Slippers

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$65 $39 (40% off)

Why limit the shearling trend to the upper half of your body? These plush slippers will give even your most worn-in sweats a stylish edge.

4

The Chunky Cardigan

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$110 $77 (30% off)

Sure, this may not be the cardigan Taylor Swift was talking about. But, with an exaggerated collar and ribbed finish, this style would definitely score top marks from the singer herself. 

5

The Canvas Utility Boots

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$115 $59 (40% off)

Brave the cold weather in style with Everlane’s chic boots. The canvas uppers and thick sole make these an ideal, all-weather option.

6

The Lofty-Knit Henley

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$150 $105 (30% off)

Made with a nubby blend of merino wool, alpaca, and recycled nylon, this henley is perfect for a cozy night in, yet stylish enough to wear in public.

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The Perform Bike Shorts

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$45 $22 (51% off)

No, you can never have too many stretchy pants. Everlane’s bike shorts ooze major Lady Di vibes — for under $25, no less.

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The ReLeather Court Sneakers

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$110 $66 (40% off)

Made with recycled leather, these refresh sneakers will serve up major curb appeal — and Mother Nature’s seal of approval. 

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The Field Dress

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$100 $60 (40% off)

Found: a fun, flouncy frock you can wear year-round. For a wintry take, pair with opaque tights and your favorite chunky boots.

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The Cozy-Stretch Wide-Leg Sweatpants

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$150 $75 (50% off)

With a straight-legged silhouette and wool material, it’s safe to say these are the chicest sweatpants we’ve ever seen. To sweeten an already enticing offer, this pair is half off.

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The Organic Cotton Flannel Popover

$80 $56 (30% off)

Everlane reimagined the traditional flannel with a cropped silhouette, voluminous sleeves, and a slew of minimalist colors.

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The Studio Bag

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$275 $192 (30% off)

Large enough to fit all your essentials, but not too big that it’ll weigh you down, Everlane’s Studio Bag is the perfect everyday purse.

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The ReNew Long Liner

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$158 $118 (25% off)

House Stark was right: winter really is coming. Made with recycled materials, this liner is a great layering piece that’s considerably chicer than the yesteryear’s Michelin Man-worthy parkas.

14

The Felted Merino Beanie

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$50 $30 (40% off)

All set on clothes? Pick up this cheery beanie, which is 40% off its original price.

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29 Winter Fragrances That Exude Main Character Energy

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